Re: Serie A
Postano: 08 feb 2023, 10:42
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'ta ce englezi, talijani to sad pa sad odrade...sta ti je reci sistem zakona i pravde...Također, navodi da će proces trajati jako dugo i da menadžer Pep Guardiola možda više neće biti na klupi Cityja kada se donese konačna odluka. Početna istraga Premier lige trajala je četiri godine.
In 2018-19, the last season before Covid-19 hit, 20 Serie A clubs made a total of €699m in capital gains – more than any of the other 'Big Five' leagues.
Jeste ali obojica su zgazili covjeka i zna se da su obojica krivi, ja kazem ako nisi kriv, nemas se sta sikirati, razliciti pojmovi, ne okreciJuventinisimo je napisao/la: ↑08 feb 2023, 17:11
@milanist, pa barem u Bosni ima tih primjera koliko hoces..."tatin" sin zgazi autom, haj' kuci...neko drugi zgazi autom, robija...sve istrazeno, sve cisto, jedan nevin, drugi nije...onaj ubio covjeka, kamere se posakrivale, nevin 100%...nemamo se cega bojati, buducnost i prosperitet u drzavi na velikoj razini..
Ma jok ba..kakva urota..milanist je napisao/la: ↑09 feb 2023, 11:10Pa dobro kolega ni ti se ne osvrces na ono sto mi pisemoti svoje, mi svoje, pa dokle
Ja rekao ako znas da si nevin sta se imas sikirati, ti meni pises obojica zgazili covjeka, jedan osudjen drugi nije, ja ti rekao samo da su u sustini obojica krivi, jer su zgazili, ali ako nisi zgazio covjeka, sta onda?
I ajde sad ovako pitam tebe jel vjerujes da je sve ovo urota protiv Juvea i da su 100% cisti? da je sve ovo neko uradio samo da bi se napakostilo Juventusu, ili ima tu nesto i do Juvea?
Jel oni vasi podnesose ostavke ekspresno, jel' su imali razlog ili ne? sta mislis.
Kazes i drugi isto rade, mozda, vjerujem i da da. Ali problem je sto drugima ne nadjose nikakve audio zapise i knjgice gdje se jasno ide ka tome da se to uradi, znas kako kazu mozes sve dok te ne uhvate i ne dokazu, za druge mozda nema dokaza kao sto ima i ovom slucaju. Ovaj vas levat pisao sve u sveskicu, MDS ubaceni elemnt potvrdi svasta i tako to....
Kako ti mogu naci zapise, telefonske razgovore, itd...ako te ne prisluskuju, istrazuju??Despite widespread unsportsmanship conduct, no match was proven to have been altered or fixed, with the possible exception of Lecce–Parma according to Calciopoli judge Piero Sandulli. As recalled by Sandulli, the sentence was about bad habits rather than illicits, and was an ethical condemnation. In May 2009, the justice of the peace of Lecce acquitted Luciano Moggi and referee Massimo De Santis of the charge of sports fraud and match fixing of the Lecce–Juventus and Lecce–Fiorentina matches of the 2004–05 Serie A, as sanctioned by the sporting judgements. In particular, the judge established that "the fact described has not been proven in any way" and that "the Judge also does not consider the sentences rendered by the sports justice bodies fully usable since the latter judgment is structurally different from the ordinary judgement. Nor is it believed that the telephone interceptions referred to in the course of the proceedings can have probative value, since they cannot be used in a proceeding other than the one in which they are ordered."
Among them were:
Prime Minister of Italy: Silvio Berlusconi, Milan owner and president, and owner of several TV stations, magazines, and newspapers, as well as the leader of Forza Italia political party. Through his TV-station ownership, Berlusconi controlled soccer TV rights for all teams competing in Serie A and Serie B.
FIGC president: Franco Carraro, former Milan president and co-owner of Lazio and Roma through his control of Capitalia
FIGC vice-president: Massimo Moratti, Inter Milan owner
Lega Calcio president: Adriano Galliani, Milan vice-president
Italian football sponsor: Marco Tronchetti Provera, major Inter Milan shareholder, and owner of Telecom Italia and its sister company Gruppo TIM, which sponsored all major Italian football competitions (Serie A, Coppa Italia, and Supercoppa Italiana), as well as owner of Pirelli (Inter Milan primary sponsor) and TV channel La7
FIGC investigation chief: Francesco Saverio Borrelli, a political associate of Berlusconi, who had meetings behind closed doors with Galliani throughout the trial
FIGC commissioner: Guido Rossi, minority Inter Milan shareholder, former Inter Milan director, and member of Telecom's board of directors
FIGC investigation commissioner regarding Inter Milan accounting fraud resulting in capital gains (plusvalenze): Marco Stefanini, acting lawyer for La Spezia soccer team, which was owned by Moratti, who was also still the club's minority shareholder with 40% shares
AIA commissioner: Luigi Agnolin, former executive of Roma
La Gazzetta dello Sport president: Carlo Bore, who was also acting as Inter Milan vice-president
La Gazzetta dello Sport chief-editor: Carlo Verdelli, minority Inter Milan shareholder
Il Corriere dello Sport chief-editor: Bruno Bertolozzi, Inter Milan employee as communications and organizational director
Through GEDI Gruppo Editoriale, the Agnelli family owns several newspapers, such as La Stampa and la Repubblica, none of which are sports focused like Inter Milan/Milan-leaning La Gazzetta dello Sport or Lazio/Rome-leaning Corriere dello Sport. Turin-based Tuttosport, which is not owned by the Agnelli family, is the only Juventus-leaning major sport newspaper; in 2011, Juventus attacked Tuttosport from its harsh criticism of the club during the 2010–11 Serie A season. In addition, at the time of the events, while the Agnelli family retained majority ownership, both Gianni Agnelli and Vittorio Caissotti di Chiusano had died in 2003, and Umberto Agnelli also died in 2004, and was succeeded by Franzo Grande Stevens, while John Elkann (rather than Andrea Agnelli), Gianluigi Gabetti, and Luca Cordero di Montezemolo became more involved with the club. At least one of Agnelli-owned newspaper has been described as the Italian New York Times or a newspaper of record, and newspapers, such as la Repubblica and La Stampa, published wiretaps implicating both Moggi and Juventus. La Repubblica took a colpevolisti stance.
Ne bi trebao biti iz Torina, ali ne bi trebao biti ni neko ko se javno deklarisao da mrzi Juventus, zar neTheTruth34 je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 07:45Po juventinima, tužioc je trebao da bude neko iz Torina i zagriženi fan Stare Dame..![]()
Problem je što niko nije čist 100%, niti jedan klub. Juve nije sigurno. Mislim da su dali ostavke zbog Prisma slučaja, ne zbog 'capital gains'. Za 'Capital gains' niko nikad nje osuđen u historiji fudbala, samo Juventus. Malo je to čudno, ako je to praksa svih klubova u europi. Djeluje mi kao selektivna pravda, to jest targetovanje. Pogotovo što nema pravila/zakona po kojem se 'plusvalenza' i sve oko nje može tretirati kažnjivo.milanist je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 01:05Nista ti ne odgovori, ja te pitam jedno ti postas stvari od 2006 godine, pusti to, pitao sam te za ovo sad.
Taj sto mrzi juve kako kazes, ne sudi mu. Nije isto.
Sto su dali ostavke? Nemoj mi odg da je to praksa u Italiji, to je odg za 10godisnjake.
Za sto je Milan kaznjen a za sto Juve?
I ne odovori mi o5 jel mislis da je Juve cist 100% sad?
GlupostTheTruth34 je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 07:45Po juventinima, tužioc je trebao da bude neko iz Torina i zagriženi fan Stare Dame..![]()
Mogu li ja? Dali su ostavke zato sto su znali da ce doci do kazne i oni su dobili neke suspenzije pa je pametnije bilo na vrijeme izabrat novu upravu nego da cekaju kazne pa onda.milanist je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 01:05Nista ti ne odgovori, ja te pitam jedno ti postas stvari od 2006 godine, pusti to, pitao sam te za ovo sad.
Taj sto mrzi juve kako kazes, ne sudi mu. Nije isto.
Sto su dali ostavke? Nemoj mi odg da je to praksa u Italiji, to je odg za 10godisnjake.
Za sto je Milan kaznjen a za sto Juve?
I ne odovori mi o5 jel mislis da je Juve cist 100% sad?
Klasicni spin.TheTruth34 je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 07:45Po juventinima, tužioc je trebao da bude neko iz Torina i zagriženi fan Stare Dame..![]()
Ja ti na sve odgovorio...ako procitas tekst, skontas poentu, razumjeces...milanist je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 01:05Nista ti ne odgovori, ja te pitam jedno ti postas stvari od 2006 godine, pusti to, pitao sam te za ovo sad.
Taj sto mrzi juve kako kazes, ne sudi mu. Nije isto.
Sto su dali ostavke? Nemoj mi odg da je to praksa u Italiji, to je odg za 10godisnjake.
Za sto je Milan kaznjen a za sto Juve?
I ne odovori mi o5 jel mislis da je Juve cist 100% sad?
Liga je bila dosadna prije svega što su konkurenti bili preslabi i smiješni, a nije bilo VAR-a.dinoo je napisao/la: ↑10 feb 2023, 17:12Ok momci vise....Juventus je sve kriv, za sve je popusio zestoke kazne.
Svi ostali savrseno posluju, ni trunke tog capital gaina, da cojk pozeli samo postenje berlusconia ili moratia ili onog rezisera....pa ne bi ni capital gaina ni minus bodova ni nicega.
Juventus placa svoje grijehe i to je jedino tacno.
Izaci ce Juventus jaci iz ovoga i bice opet "dosadna" liga...