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Post Postao/la Melo15 » 22 avg 2012, 14:05

Slatinash_7 je napisao/la:
Melo15 je napisao/la:moze mi neko reci sta mi mozemo sa 13mil trade exceptiona koji istice u martu??
za sta ga mozemo koristiti?
Koliko se ja razumijem taj TE se koristi u trade-u kad je razlika u platama igraca koji se mijenjaju,recimo sad hoces da trade-as igraca sa 15 mil plate za nekog od 10 mil,i sad se ta razlika kompenzuje tim TE koji dobijes ili posaljes u toj zamjeni...Zato se i trade-aju prava na Bavcica i slicne igrace,pickove prve runde koji su jos u evropi jer oni uzimaju SC itd itd Uglavnom je jako komplikovano al taj TE pomaze :mrgreen:
Mislim da su Lakersi uz pickove dali i taj TE koji su dobili od Dallasa za Odoma,Phoenixu za Nasha...
pa mozemo li mi sad npr. poslati pikove i to cudo za nekog all-stara??
ili ako se neki igrac ne pokaze do trade deadline-a da se desi neki veci trade,posto ne vjerujem da cemo taj TE tamo lako pustiti da istekne...
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Melo15 je napisao/la:
Slatinash_7 je napisao/la: Koliko se ja razumijem taj TE se koristi u trade-u kad je razlika u platama igraca koji se mijenjaju,recimo sad hoces da trade-as igraca sa 15 mil plate za nekog od 10 mil,i sad se ta razlika kompenzuje tim TE koji dobijes ili posaljes u toj zamjeni...Zato se i trade-aju prava na Bavcica i slicne igrace,pickove prve runde koji su jos u evropi jer oni uzimaju SC itd itd Uglavnom je jako komplikovano al taj TE pomaze :mrgreen:
Mislim da su Lakersi uz pickove dali i taj TE koji su dobili od Dallasa za Odoma,Phoenixu za Nasha...
pa mozemo li mi sad npr. poslati pikove i to cudo za nekog all-stara??
ili ako se neki igrac ne pokaze do trade deadline-a da se desi neki veci trade,posto ne vjerujem da cemo taj TE tamo lako pustiti da istekne...
TPE is for single player trades only, though additional cash and draft picks can be part of the trade. Znaci, mozete poslati tih 13 miliona plus pickove za igraca kojem je plata 13 miliona. Npr. posaljete pick druge runde u Orlando, za Big Baby Davisa i Nelsona, to je samo primjer. Ne moze se slati Lawson + TPE za Gaya ili Aldridgea. To su neki primjeri. Znaci taj TPE ne moze dopunjavati razliku u platama, on se tako stice, jer npr. kod nas je James otisao za pickove, sto nam je stvorilo TPE, koji nismo mogli iskoristiti. TPE se moze samo koristiti ako zelite dati pickove za igraca sa platom u visini koliko iznosi TPE, doduse moze i samo TPE ukoliko partner u trejdu zeli da se rijesi nekog igraca sa visokom platom, pa ga da dzaba samo da ga se rijesi.
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Post Postao/la amerosm » 22 avg 2012, 23:02

Evo ESPN-ove prognoze za zapadnu konferenciju
1. Oklahoma City Thunder: 57.9 wins, 0.3 games worse
Oklahoma City's projected age (weighted by game minutes) for this season is 25.8 years, which ranks 22nd in the league. To give some context, the teams just behind the Thunder are Sacramento, Toronto and Washington. In other words, OKC sports a collective age typical of a franchise in rebuilding mode, yet the Thunder are coming off a Finals appearance.

The sky is the limit, especially considering the growth potential Oklahoma City still has on the defensive end, where it is projected to rank 11th. This is a squad that could win 60-65 games this season if healthy and focused.



2. Los Angeles Lakers: 54.8 wins, 9.6 games better
The Lakers' projection keeps nudging forward with every signing Mitch Kupchak makes to round out the league's oldest roster. Most of that optimism can be traced to the acquisitions of Dwight Howard and Steve Nash. The Lakers project to jump from 10th to seventh on offense and 12th to fifth on defense.



3. Denver Nuggets: 51.1 wins, 2.2 games better
The Nuggets will be one of the league's most interesting teams to follow. Already fielding one of the NBA's deepest rotations, Denver bolstered its upside by upgrading from Arron Afflalo to Andre Iguodala. Iggy gives Denver one of the top five defenders in the league and a guy who should flourish in George Karl's frenetic system.



4. Minnesota Timberwolves: 51.0 wins, 16.3 games better
Only Brooklyn projects to make a bigger jump than the young, talented and suddenly deep Timberwolves. For all the abuse that general manager David Kahn has taken in the past, he had as good an offseason as any executive in the league. Minnesota has 12 legitimate NBA talents on its roster, giving Rick Adelman the versatility to play any style that suits him at any given time. And, yes, this projection takes into account the fact that Ricky Rubio will miss anywhere from 30-40 games while recovering from his knee injury.



5. San Antonio Spurs: 50.7 wins, 9.3 games worse
The league's most consistent franchise is once again displaying an amazing amount of continuity by bringing back about 98 percent of its minutes from last season, although DeJuan Blair has been rumored to be on the trade market. Still, the Spurs overachieved a bit last season based on their point differential, and their aging core is one year older, which means wilting playing time projections for Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.



6. Los Angeles Clippers: 49.1 wins, 0.6 games worse
This whole super-team fad is fairly new, so we're still not sure about the best method for filling out the roster for such a model. The Clippers have as much foundation talent as anyone, but the rest of the roster looks like a bunch of names. Jamal Crawford may or may not be an upgrade from Mo Williams, while recognizable but tepid players like Ronny Turiaf, Caron Butler, Willie Green, Ryan Hollins and Grant Hill -- the league's oldest player -- round out the bench to no real effect. A return to form by Lamar Odom would be a huge boost for the Clips.



7. Utah Jazz: 42.9 wins, 0.1 games worse
Utah has a lot of really nice, young pieces, but as the franchise continues to evolve, it remains to be seen how it's all going to fit together. With so many efficient interior scorers and a growing collection of 3-point shooters, the offense projects to be top-five in the league. However, the defense lags, and it will as long as the Jazz count on Al Jefferson to anchor the middle.



8. Memphis Grizzlies: 42.2 wins, 4.9 games worse
Small-market teams have to make hard decisions as they age and their core pieces become more expensive, and so it was for Memphis, which had no choice but to allow O.J. Mayo to walk. Jerryd Bayless will be asked to fill his role as a bench scorer and may be well-suited for the role. Memphis is woefully short of outside shooters, however, and projects to make the fewest 3-pointers in the league.



9. Dallas Mavericks: 38.2 wins, 5.7 games worse
The Mavericks' placeholder roster screams average, but with Rick Carlisle at the helm, you certainly can't rule out a run at a playoff berth. Despite the turnover in personnel, the Mavericks managed to remain long in the tooth, with a projection as the fourth-oldest team in the league.



10. Golden State Warriors: 34.7 wins, 3.3 games better
The Warriors fancy themselves as a playoff contender. We do not. Golden State has questionable depth despite the presence of veterans such as Richard Jefferson, Carl Landry and Brandon Rush on the roster. Harrison Barnes projects to be one of the worst players in the league. Indeed, his ability to outperform that forecast is the key to Golden State taking that longed-for step toward the postseason.



11. Sacramento Kings: 34.1 wins, 8.4 games better
The Kings seem to be headed in the right direction, but it has seemed like that for a few years now, and the results never quite measure up to the expectations. To say that this is a pivotal season for Tyreke Evans is an understatement.



12. New Orleans Hornets: 33.2 wins, 3.6 games better
There is no doubt that the Hornets are on the upswing and the long-term picture is bright. While New Orleans has a really exciting core, it remains very young and raw. Austin Rivers could help matters by exceeding a horrific forecast, but even if he does, chances are that Ryan Anderson is going to fall short of his projection now that he's no longer joined at the hip with Howard.



13. Portland Trail Blazers: 33.1 wins, 6.1 games worse
The last epoch of Blazers basketball was utterly ruined by injuries, so Portland has effectively hit the reset button and projects to have a younger roster than all but four other teams in the league. Right now, this is just a franchise searching for an identity.



14. Houston Rockets: 29.4 wins, 12.2 games worse
The Rockets cleared the decks for a run at Howard, and once that didn't work out, they were left with the next-best thing for a team trying to escape the middle: flexibility. Houston projects as the league's worst offensive team, one that will get an inordinate amount of its scoring from a starting backcourt of Jeremy Lin and Kevin Martin. In that sense, this Rockets squad harkens to some of the lesser Rudy Tomjanovich teams that were led by the duo of Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley.



15. Phoenix Suns: 27.8 wins, 12.5 games worse
We're not exactly sure what the plan is in Phoenix, but the Suns are moving forward with a roster devoid of core players. They won't just be bad. They'll be boring. We'll have to see what the future brings.
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Post Postao/la kokuz » 22 avg 2012, 23:04

uh, kakva nas samo sezona čeka...
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Post Postao/la LBJ MVP » 22 avg 2012, 23:06

kokuz je napisao/la:uh, kakva nas samo sezona čeka...
Ne znam hoćel biti zanimljivo gledati još jednom isto finale.Valjda Oklahoma napreduje :?

Minnesota 4. :lol:
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Post Postao/la Raul_64 » 22 avg 2012, 23:09

Denver treci
Minesota cetvrta
Spursi peti

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Post Postao/la DejaNMG » 22 avg 2012, 23:11

LBJ MVP je napisao/la:Minnesota 4. :lol:
Po cemu je jaci Denver od Vukova?
Rubio, Shved, AK, Love, Pekovic, Williams mi nikako ne izgledaju kao ekipa koja je za podsmjehivanje. ;)
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Post Postao/la LBJ MVP » 22 avg 2012, 23:15

DejaNMG je napisao/la:
LBJ MVP je napisao/la:Minnesota 4. :lol:
Po cemu je jaci Denver od Vukova?
Rubio, Shved, AK, Love, Pekovic, Williams mi nikako ne izgledaju kao ekipa koja je za podsmjehivanje. ;)
Pa 8. mjesto bi im bilo odlično pogotovo jer tek prelaze put od smiješne ekipe do playoff ekipe.Nije da su doveli Paula pa da odmah skoče u najbolje ekipe zapada.

Denver jeste jači od vukova.Stalno su u playoffu i jednostavno su puno iskusniji.
Michael Owen: "Before I went there, Jamie Carragher said to me: “Oh, you’ll never get a game, Ronaldo will be playing and Raul will be playing, My answer was simple: “But it’s Real Madrid”.

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Post Postao/la DejaNMG » 22 avg 2012, 23:21

Po meni Vukovi zavrsavaju na 6 mjestu, a mislim da ni Denver ni oni nisu ispred SAS.
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Post Postao/la LBJ MVP » 22 avg 2012, 23:26

Thunder,Lakers,Spurs,Grizzlies,Clippers,Nuggets,Jazz ne vidim kako vukovi mogu ispred njih.Dobro možda ispred Jazza,ali tu su i Mavsi koji će sigurno ganjat PO.

Logično da Nuggetsi nisu bolji od Spursa.
Michael Owen: "Before I went there, Jamie Carragher said to me: “Oh, you’ll never get a game, Ronaldo will be playing and Raul will be playing, My answer was simple: “But it’s Real Madrid”.

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Post Postao/la adriano_leite » 22 avg 2012, 23:56

LBJ MVP je napisao/la:Thunder,Lakers,Spurs,Grizzlies,Clippers,Nuggets,Jazz ne vidim kako vukovi mogu ispred njih.Dobro možda ispred Jazza,ali tu su i Mavsi koji će sigurno ganjat PO.

Logično da Nuggetsi nisu bolji od Spursa.
Meni se cini da su Mavsi sigurno jaci nego prosle sezone i da ce oni biti u PO, dok Jazz ce tesko da udje u PO. Tu je i zajebana Minnesota, doveli su igrace sa PO iskustvom, Rusa Shveda, oporavit ce se Rubio, a mogu vala komotno sada i trejdati Williamsa za nekog solidnog igraca All-Star kvalitete, tipa Aldridgea. Kako bi samo mocan bio trejd Williams i neki filler za Aldridgea, jer Portland nema sta traziti ove sezone, mada su dosta dobro prosli na draftu. Williamsa se treba cekati jos sigurno dvije sezone, jer lik ne zna ni sta igra, njemu da je da igra trojku, dok je realno bolji na cetvorki. LA i KL bi bili strasni pod kosem. Moguce je i sa Atlantom za npr. Smitha ili Horforda, ali prateci Khana, tesko da on moze imati logicnih poteza :lol: . Ove sezone je prebukirao pozicije SF i SG, mislim da se mora pojacati pod kosem ako zeli nesto vise od Minnesote.
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Post Postao/la LBJ MVP » 22 avg 2012, 23:59

Ja sam nešto siguran da će Jazz uzeti 7. ili 8. poziciju.

Samo bi budala pristala na Williamsa za LMA :mrgreen:Možda da im dadnu Rubia i Kalašnjikova još :D

Mavsi nisu ni jači ni slabiji samo se konkurencija pojačala.
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Post Postao/la adriano_leite » 23 avg 2012, 00:03

LBJ MVP je napisao/la:Ja sam nešto siguran da će Jazz uzeti 7. ili 8. poziciju.

Samo bi budala pristala na Williamsa za LMA :mrgreen:Možda da im dadnu Rubia i Kalašnjikova još :D

Mavsi nisu ni jači ni slabiji samo se konkurencija pojačala.
Zato postoji trejd sa tri tima koji bi sigurno neki tim uskocio za neke pickove ;) . Konkurencija se pojacala, ali su se i Mavsi pojacali i mislim da su jaci od Jazza, doduse i Jazz je sada jaci ali sve je to u 5 deka, medjutim, Mavsi imaju Dirka, dok Jazz nema nikoga blizu Dirka.
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Post Postao/la Raul_64 » 23 avg 2012, 00:05

Ma koji Jazz , Mo Wiliams im play a ujedno i najbolji bek..
nemoj te zajebavat.

Spursi,OCK,LAkersi,Clipersi,Memphis,Denver,Dallas zakljucano,nasumicno redano(povrede i pizde materne mijenjaju stvar)..
a za 8 poziciju najvise sanse bi dao vukovima..
Fenix il Golden(jos je rano) prije monarha.
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Post Postao/la LBJ MVP » 23 avg 2012, 00:09

Harris ili Mo nije neka razlika ;)
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Post Postao/la Raul_64 » 23 avg 2012, 00:12

Normalno da je razlika...
zamjenili su playa za combo guarda.
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Post Postao/la adriano_leite » 23 avg 2012, 00:13

Raul_64 je napisao/la:Ma koji Jazz , Mo Wiliams im play a ujedno i najbolji bek..
nemoj te zajebavat.

Spursi,OCK,LAkersi,Clipersi,Memphis,Denver,Dallas zakljucano,nasumicno redano(povrede i pizde materne mijenjaju stvar)..
a za 8 poziciju najvise sanse bi dao vukovima..
Fenix il Golden(jos je rano) prije monarha.
Ma ima Utah sasvim solidnu ekipu, koja bi sigurno bila u PO da je ekipa sa istoka, ali ovako se slazem s tobom da nemaju bas prevelike sanse, mada su izuzetno jaki pod kosem te njihov dvojac Millsap i Big Al, mozda imaju mjesta u svakoj ekipi u NBA ligi, pogotovo Big Al. Tu su jos i Favors kojem malo fali da ima sezonu koja ce biti prekretnica u njegovoj karijeri, te Kantera koji je nebruseni talenat. Oni trebaju trejdati Milsapa za nekog sutera, jer je u zadnjoj godini ugovora i izgleda ce traziti velike pare za produzenje istog. Imaju lijepu buducnost, ali nije to kvalitet za PO, barem ne na zapadu.
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Post Postao/la alemsa » 23 avg 2012, 01:40

amerosm je napisao/la:Evo ESPN-ove prognoze za zapadnu konferenciju
Zar nisu Lakersi jaci od OKC?

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Knjiga Tim Donaghy-a "Personal foul" koja je izasla prije dvije godine
Inace Tim je sudio 13 godina u NBA, i 07-e je ufacen za kladjenje.

U knjizi prica o svemu, o svim namjestaljkama sudija, lige, superstara itd.

o superstars:
If a player of Kobe's stature collides with the likes of Raja Bell, the call will almost always go for Kobe and against Bell. As part of our ongoing training and game preparation, NBA referees regularly receive game-action video tape from the league office. Over the years, I have reviewed many recorded hours of video involving Raja Bell. The footage I analyzed usually illustrated fouls being called against Bell, rarely for him. The message was subtle but clear — call fouls against the star stopper because he's hurting the game.

If Kobe Bryant had two fouls in the first or second quarter and went to the bench, one referee would tell the other two, "Kobe's got two fouls. Let's make sure that if we call a foul on him, it's an obvious foul, because otherwise he's gonna go back to the bench. If he is involved in a play where a foul is called, give the foul to another player."

Similarly, when games got physically rough, we would huddle up and agree to tighten the game up. So we started calling fouls on guys who didn't really matter — "ticky-tack" or "touch" fouls where one player just touched another but didn't really impede his progress. Under regular circumstances these wouldn't be fouls, but after a skirmish we wanted to regain control. We would never call these types of fouls on superstars, just on the average players who didn't have star status. It was important to keep the stars on the floor.

O Dick Bavetti

The 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings presents a stunning example of game and series manipulation at its ugliest. As the teams prepared for Game 6 at the Staples Center, Sacramento had a 3–2 lead in the series. The referees assigned to work Game 6 were Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney, and Ted Bernhardt. As soon as the referees for the game were chosen, the rest of us knew immediately that there would be a Game 7.
:D

Bavetta went on to inform me that it wasn't the first time the NBA assigned him to a game for a specific purpose. He cited examples, including the 1993 playoff series when he put New Jersey guard Drazen Petrovic on the bench with quick fouls to help Cleveland beat the Nets. He also spoke openly about the 2002 Los Angeles–Sacramento series and called himself the NBA's "go-to guy."

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alemsa je napisao/la:Knjiga Tim Donaghy-a "Personal foul" koja je izasla prije dvije godine
Inace Tim je sudio 13 godina u NBA, i 07-e je ufacen za kladjenje.

U knjizi prica o svemu, o svim namjestaljkama sudija, lige, superstara itd.

o superstars:
If a player of Kobe's stature collides with the likes of Raja Bell, the call will almost always go for Kobe and against Bell. As part of our ongoing training and game preparation, NBA referees regularly receive game-action video tape from the league office. Over the years, I have reviewed many recorded hours of video involving Raja Bell. The footage I analyzed usually illustrated fouls being called against Bell, rarely for him. The message was subtle but clear — call fouls against the star stopper because he's hurting the game.

If Kobe Bryant had two fouls in the first or second quarter and went to the bench, one referee would tell the other two, "Kobe's got two fouls. Let's make sure that if we call a foul on him, it's an obvious foul, because otherwise he's gonna go back to the bench. If he is involved in a play where a foul is called, give the foul to another player."

Similarly, when games got physically rough, we would huddle up and agree to tighten the game up. So we started calling fouls on guys who didn't really matter — "ticky-tack" or "touch" fouls where one player just touched another but didn't really impede his progress. Under regular circumstances these wouldn't be fouls, but after a skirmish we wanted to regain control. We would never call these types of fouls on superstars, just on the average players who didn't have star status. It was important to keep the stars on the floor.

O Dick Bavetti

The 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings presents a stunning example of game and series manipulation at its ugliest. As the teams prepared for Game 6 at the Staples Center, Sacramento had a 3–2 lead in the series. The referees assigned to work Game 6 were Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney, and Ted Bernhardt. As soon as the referees for the game were chosen, the rest of us knew immediately that there would be a Game 7.
:D

Bavetta went on to inform me that it wasn't the first time the NBA assigned him to a game for a specific purpose. He cited examples, including the 1993 playoff series when he put New Jersey guard Drazen Petrovic on the bench with quick fouls to help Cleveland beat the Nets. He also spoke openly about the 2002 Los Angeles–Sacramento series and called himself the NBA's "go-to guy."

brate narucio sam ja tu knjigu neki dan treba da dodje ovih dana bas.. ziva istina sve sto se u njoj pise..covjek se otvorio jednostanvo rekao koliko je mucke se desavalo u ovoj NBA...jako finih clanaka igraca i drugih uticajnih osoba iz NBA koji pricaju kako su neki igraci bili prekrsajima presjeceni, jer su bili tvrd orah za neke od super starova u ligi...kazu namjesteno finale Lakers-Kings, Miami 2006 i td....jos je covjek nabrojao neke utkamice .. ja vjerujem d aje i ovo finale ove godine namjesteno, jer da James i Miami ovo nisu uzeli bogami tesko bi i uzeli ikad, jer sad dolazi vrijeme kad se ponovo okrece NBA oko jacanja ekipa koje su uvjek bile zastitni znak lige...znaci mislim na ove ekipe koje ja nesto ne pamtim da su imale smjenu generacija ebiga :)
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