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Post Postao/la IlPrincipino » 16 jun 2013, 17:12

Znam da je tek juni mjesec ali sam razocaran kako za sada nas prelazni rok ide. Rekli su da cemo do pocetka priprema imati sve sto nam treba(Marottina izjava),a jos nismo nista konkretno napravili, sem sto smo doveli tonu mladih igraca koje cemo za godinu ili dvije proslijediti u dealu za nekog igraca. Konacan sud cu dati na kraju prelazno roka ali ne djeluje mi da ce ovo biti neka pretjerano velika ocjena. Mi nista ne mozemo napraviti bez da to ode krajnost. Ogbonna je djelovao da je nas kao i jos milion njih prije ali standardno posao se nekako iznenada produzi. Dva uzastopna Scudetta su tu i para imamo i trebalo bi dosta toga da je lakse ali i dalje to zapinje na sve strane. :roll:
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Post Postao/la 0xygen » 16 jun 2013, 17:24

Polahko ljudi još je mnogo vremena do početka sezone. Mnogo toga se može promijeniti, i nema potrebe za nekom nervozom oko novog napadača. Suarez, Higuain, Jovetić - imena koja se i najviše spominju u štampi. Lično bih najviše želio gledati Jovetića, a i cijena je također jako pristojna. Već dugi niz godina momak nastupa za Viole, te ubilježava jako dobre partije. Jedan od ključnih razloga jeste i njegova želja da zaigra za Juve, što je zapravo i veliki plus naspram ostalih imena. Zašto ne Suareza? Ponašanje! Njegova jedina mana i zbog toga mnogo gubi i u medijima, ali i samopouzdanje također opada. Eventualnim dolaskom Suareza u redove Juvea vrlo je moguće da eskaliraju neki sukobi unutar momčadi, a to nam je najmanje potrebno. Zašto ne Higuain? Hm, mlađahni napadač se već dugo vremena spominje kao potencijalno pojačanje našeg kluba ali ja ga ipak ne bih želio u Torinu. Ok, radi se o čistom krstenom špicu kakav nam je i potreban, ali cijena nije prihvatljiva. Perez želi što više novca, iako i sam zna da toliko ne vrijedi. Jbg, 30m je prenapuhana cijena.

Uglavnom, bez brige. Tek smo u sredini juna, a mercato je u žiži zbivanja. Uz Llorentea očekujem još jednog WC napadača. 8-)
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Post Postao/la Pogba » 16 jun 2013, 17:49

Luca Marrone: The Future Of Juventus?

Jest' da je puno, ali vrijedi pročitati. :mrgreen:
It seems that wherever you look, someone knows better. After two years in which he has seen very little action, the Internet is filled with column after column of people offering opinion on what is best for Luca Marrone. They look back over his two seasons under Antonio Conte at Juventus, and declare that in order for him to develop he should leave on loan, offering viable destinations like Fiorentina or Atalanta as places where he would thrive.
Yet many of these articles offer very little to back up their theory, outside of the fact that the 23 year old has ‘barely played’ since returning to Turin, and listing the midfielders ahead of him in what is steadily becoming the deepest squad the Bianconeri have had in at least a decade. As always, we at JuventiKnows attempt to bring a little more realism to the debate, and when it comes to the man known to Claudio Zuliani (and Google Translate) as Luke Brown, it is certainly no different.
Born in the Turin commune of Bosconero, he would join the youth ranks of la vecchia Signora when he was just six years old. Young Luca impressed the coaches as soon as the action became competitive. By 2007, he was already featuring regularly for the Primavera under Vincenzo Chiarenza, as well as representing Italy at both Under-17 and Under 19 levels. He would enjoy two good seasons there, culminating in the 2009 Viareggio Cup triumph in a team dominated by the goal scoring exploits of Ciro Immobile. However, Marrone would catch the eye of Juve legend, Ciro Ferrara.
At that time, the former defender was in charge of Juve’s Youth Sector, but by May of that year, he had replaced Claudio Ranieri on the bench. As the summer began, Ferrara made it clear he saw the young midfielder as part of the first team squad. Marrone was given plenty of playing time in the pre-season friendlies, and would make his debut on the opening day of Serie A as a 70th minute substitute for everyone’s least favourite Portuguese international, Tiago. Soon after, Marrone would also make his first appearance for Italy’s Under-21 side against Hungary, and establish himself as an integral member of the Azzurrini.
As we know, the season collapsed and his opportunities were limited, as the struggling Ferrara was sacked and Alberto Zaccheroni was brought in as a replacement. He would spend more time back with the Primavera as they again won the Viareggio Cup, with Marrone captaining the side and playing a key role throughout the prestigious tournament. That summer saw a huge overhaul of the club. Beppe Marotta quickly proved to have a better grasp of developing young players than his predecessor Alessio Secco, placing the now 20-year-old Marrone on loan at Siena.
He enjoyed a successful season in Serie B, as Antonio Conte brought the best from him as Robur won promotion to the top flight. Marrone became a regular, anchoring the midfield in the coach’s demanding 4-2-4 formation. Superb in his regista role, the player has thrived under the Bianconeri legend, making nineteen appearances and scoring his only goal in the last minute of a thrilling draw against Vicenza. He was fully prepared for his return home, telling La Stampa that he was “ready for Juve,” and going on to tell the reporter he was confident that “my time will come.”
That patience and belief would serve him well over the next two seasons, and he, much like the rest of us, would have been overjoyed to see his mentor appointed as Juventus coach that same summer. Conte would block a second loan move for the player, instead insisting that he remain to become part of the first team squad and praising the speed at which he had grasped the nuances of formations and tactical schemes during their spell in Tuscany together.
Appearances in the 2011-12 season would be scarce, largely due to the close nature of the title race. As Milan pushed the undefeated Bianconeri all the way in the Scudetto battle, Conte was reluctant to make changes to his lineup. Marrone’s greatest asset has always been his passing, but being seen as a reserve for Andrea Pirlo would also become a weakness, as the Bearded Genius was so consistently brilliant it made Conte afraid to rest him. He played all but one league game that season, yet young Luca still played well whenever he was called upon to deputise for Pirlo, making three starts and three substitute appearances in all competitions. He scored his first goal for the club on the final day of the season, and displayed his excellent distribution skills to complete 51 of the 58 passes he attempted (87.9%), while averaging one tackle and 0.3 interceptions per game.
When he’ll be able to play more regularly he’ll also gain consistency and will be the future of Juventus.
– Andrea Barzagli
he club turned down a number of loan and co-ownership bids for him that summer, also declining an offer from Bologna to purchase him outright. Speaking to the club’s official website in January – when yet another loan move was touted – and reaffirming his belief in the direction his career was headed, he said “We all believe that it is better for me to play 10 games for a big club like Juventus instead of thirty for another team.” He went on to add, “Staying here will help me to grow in terms of dealing with certain types of pressure.”
If that was to be true, then all parties should be happy, as by the end of the campaign he had played a much bigger role as the club successfully defended their crown. At the heart of his increased exposure was the amount of work he put in over the summer, working closely with Conte and Massimo Carrera in order to improve his skill set and add the ability to deputise for Leonardo Bonucci in the centre of defence. Due to Giorgio Chiellini’s lack of fitness, Marrone would feature in this new role on the opening day of the season as Juve – with Carrera coaching due to Conte’s suspension – strolled to a 2-0 victory over Parma.
By the season’s end, Conte had kept his promise, as the player made exactly ten league appearances, (eight of them as a starter) with the club notably winning nine and drawing one of those matches. With another three starts in the Coppa Italia and one against Celtic in the Champions League, it was clear to see he had made steady progress. In addition, he has continued to be a valued member of the Italian U-21 set up, earning his thirtieth cap at the European Championships this past weekend. His stats back that up, as he averaged almost fifty passes per game at a completion rate of 92% – putting him among the very best in the league – and made an average of 1.8 tackles and 1.6 interceptions per game.
He was clearly comfortable in that new role, making all but one of his starts there, as time in midfield became limited due to the immediate impact of Paul Pogba. The presence of Kwadwo Asamoah meant Marrone dropped further down the pecking order in his natural position. Andrea Barzagli was clearly impressed with Marrone’s impact alongside him in defence as, when speaking to Sky Italia following January’s draw with Lazio, he said, “Luca possesses great quality. He’s good at man-marking and can withstand physical contact.” The Italian international went on to add, “He is very good as a central midfielder, but he also knows how to adapt well as a central defender. When he’ll be able to play more regularly he’ll also gain consistency and will be the future of Juventus.”
High praise indeed, and it is here that the argument to ship him off to the provinces falls down. While it is easy to clamour for a need to play, the difference between that first season and this second season must be noted. Our own rating of him here at JuventiKnows.com supports his improvement, where his average pagelle rating rose from 6.5 in 2011-12 to 6.9 in the most recent campaign. By leaving on loan he theoretically could play more, but would that really add to his ability?
Still only 23, he has made over forty professional appearances, far more than many players his age, and he has done so in a setting that is almost tailor made for him to succeed. Under the tutelage of former Azzurri midfielder Conte, and learning from players like Claudio Marchisio, Arturo Vidal and of course Pirlo, Marrone is getting the kind of education which cannot fail to improve him. Would he suddenly make a leap by leaving that setting? Among the clubs willing to offer him playing time, there is neither the type of coach or veteran players available in Turin to guide him as he learns his craft.
For the Azzurrini, he looks as accomplished as Marco Verratti, who has just finished his first season as a regular at Paris-Saint Germain. Indeed, stats site WhoScored.com rates the Juve man slightly better this term, giving him an average rating of 6.97 compared to Verratti’s 6.96. In the heart of the Juventus defence he rarely, if ever, looked out of place, and the belief the coach has in him will only grow the longer he remains with the club. If, in the course of one summer, Carrera and Conte can teach him to play in defence, imagine what he could learn this coming season. Imagine if Andrea Barzagli is right. Imagine if ‘Luke Brown’ really is the future of Juventus.
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Post Postao/la ultrasstyle_tz » 16 jun 2013, 17:55

ma Suarez je rjesenje za sve nase probleme, ali ne vjerujem da cemo uspjeti prestici Real ( jedino ako oni dovedu Balea onda ne vjerujem da ce oba) ili Bajern ako se umijesa.

on je najveca zelja, i potajna nada te bas ono pravo wc pojacanje ali Jovetic je dosta realniji. Mada ako vec Viole ne daju ispod 30 miliona onda bolje doplatit jos tih 5- 10 (ako imamo) jer je Suarez za klasu bolji igrac neg sto ce ovaj ikad biti.

Ponasanje? Ma imali smo i gorih budala od Montera, Davidsa pa i Zidana do onih starih mesara :D Van terena i u svlacionici Suarez uopce nije problematican igrac, vec samo na terenu.
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Post Postao/la 0xygen » 16 jun 2013, 18:12

ultrasstyle_tz je napisao/la:ma Suarez je rjesenje za sve nase probleme, ali ne vjerujem da cemo uspjeti prestici Real ( jedino ako oni dovedu Balea onda ne vjerujem da ce oba) ili Bajern ako se umijesa.

on je najveca zelja, i potajna nada te bas ono pravo wc pojacanje ali Jovetic je dosta realniji. Mada ako vec Viole ne daju ispod 30 miliona onda bolje doplatit jos tih 5- 10 (ako imamo) jer je Suarez za klasu bolji igrac neg sto ce ovaj ikad biti.

Ponasanje? Ma imali smo i gorih budala od Montera, Davidsa pa i Zidana do onih starih mesara :D Van terena i u svlacionici Suarez uopce nije problematican igrac, vec samo na terenu.
Njegova kvaliteta nije upitna. Radi se o WC napadaču, i svaki klub bi ga vrlo rado gledao u svome dresu.

JoJo je po meni najrealnije riješenje za naše probleme, te je vrlo vjerovatno da iduće sezone gledamo upravo njega u Torinu. Lično sam veliki simpatizer navedenog igrača i priželjkujem njegov dolazak...

Huh, ponašanje? Upravo je to njegov najveći problem, i to je veliki minus za njega. Toliko je problema napravio Liverpoolu, i vraća im tako što želi odlazak iz kluba. Korektan je, nema šta. Uglavnom, ne bih želio da ga gledam u klubu. Totalno je antipatičan.
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Post Postao/la 10DelPiero » 16 jun 2013, 18:37

Vjerovao ili ne @Pogba procitah citav tekst :lol:

Ono sto je meni zanimljivo jeste sto bi vidjeli Pirla u liku Marronea samo jedno 3x fizicki dominantnijeg, e zamisli sad taj tip igraca fantazista kao Pirlo a fizicki jak kao Yaya Toure :o

Kako god imao je on premalo partija na tom mjestu da bi ja mogao dati neki sud ali igraci kao Pirlo su rijetkost a cisto sumnjam da Marrone ima taj smek kao on.
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Post Postao/la EnzoFerrari » 16 jun 2013, 18:54

Tesko da Marrone moze nekad zamjenit Pirla jer Pirla kad gledas odmah vidis veliku razliku sa Lucom.Pirlo se lakse krece i mnogo lakse tijelom izbacuje protivnike, zapravo to mu je glavna "finta".Tu eleganciju je od igraca sto sam ja gledao jedino imao Zidan, svi ostali su isli na brzina, startnost plus finta, a ova dvojica su izgledala tromo i sporo, a izbace te da ostanes zapanjen sta ti uradi. :mrgreen: To je ta igra "glavom".
Marrone ima jaku staminu i "mekanu nogu" al mu je pozicioniranje katastorfa, vjerovatno zbog nedostatka samopouzdanja.Ne bi mi nesto ni bilo previse zao da ga prodaju, nek covjek igra negdje.
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Post Postao/la Delpa10 » 16 jun 2013, 21:43

Andrea Pirlo :!:

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Post Postao/la Trequartista » 16 jun 2013, 23:02

Dominacija Juventusa u Brazilu!
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Post Postao/la Padovan » 16 jun 2013, 23:06

Sa Marchisiom nešto nije uredu, nije ovo onaj igrač od prošle sezone, prošle godine odlično igrao u ligi, pa kasnije i na EP bio jedan od bolji igrača, ove sezone se pogubio skroz. Nemoguće da je zaboravio igrati fudbal :mrgreen: , ali sigurno je da ima neke probleme :roll:
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Post Postao/la Trequartista » 16 jun 2013, 23:11

Umor čini svoje i Barzagli je večeras bio loš, pored penala imao je još par nesigurnih intervencija.

Ne može Marchisio sa svojih 27 godina počinjati da igra trequartistu, on je već izgrađen igrač.
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Post Postao/la IlPrincipino » 16 jun 2013, 23:13

Smijesno je na koju sve poziciju se nece staviti Claudio. Da probamo malo na poziciju desnog beka :roll:
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Post Postao/la Trequartista » 16 jun 2013, 23:17

Pa dobro, ovo je Kup Konfederacija, treba isprobati neke nove varijante, Prandelli je sigurno večeras vidio da to nije to i da će Marchisio sljedeći put igrati na prirodnoj poziciji.

Najlakše je odmah po igraču, Marchisio je najbolja italijanska mezz'alla trenutno i na toj poziciji treba da igra.
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Post Postao/la Padovan » 16 jun 2013, 23:17

Trequartista je napisao/la:Umor čini svoje i Barzagli je večeras bio loš, pored penala imao je još par nesigurnih intervencija.

Ne može Marchisio sa svojih 27 godina počinjati da igra trequartistu, on je već izgrađen igrač.
Ne radi se ovdje samo o jednoj utakmici, nego o većem dijelu sezone, igrao je i na EP u 4-4-2 dijamant formaciji pa je igrao odlično, nije do formacije i pozicije.
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Post Postao/la Trequartista » 16 jun 2013, 23:26

Pa to ti govorim, igrao u dijamant formaciji, ali mezz'allu, a Montolivo je bio trequartista, sad im je Prandelli zamjenio pozicije i usro šefa i stanicu. :D

Neophodan mu je odmor, to je sve.
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Post Postao/la adointer » 16 jun 2013, 23:30

Trequartista je napisao/la:Pa to ti govorim, igrao u dijamant formaciji, ali mezz'allu, a Montolivo je bio trequartista, sad im je Prandelli zamjenio pozicije i usro šefa i stanicu. :D

Neophodan mu je odmor, to je sve.
kakav ba odmor,Sneijder 2010 osvojio sve i opet bio najbolji strijelac na svjetskom prvenstvu,,Pirlo stariji pa mu ne treba odmor,,i nikako ne razumijem da jedan igrac tipa Giaccherini igra a neko tipa Candreva nema mjesta :roll:
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Post Postao/la Andrej » 16 jun 2013, 23:34

adointer je napisao/la:
Trequartista je napisao/la:Pa to ti govorim, igrao u dijamant formaciji, ali mezz'allu, a Montolivo je bio trequartista, sad im je Prandelli zamjenio pozicije i usro šefa i stanicu. :D

Neophodan mu je odmor, to je sve.
kakav ba odmor,Sneijder 2010 osvojio sve i opet bio najbolji strijelac na svjetskom prvenstvu,,Pirlo stariji pa mu ne treba odmor,,i nikako ne razumijem da jedan igrac tipa Giaccherini igra a neko tipa Candreva nema mjesta :roll:
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Post Postao/la Trequartista » 16 jun 2013, 23:35

Biserko je tu. :lol:

Marchisio svaku utakmicu pretrči po 12 kilometara, što se za Snejidera ne može reći i za kojeg je defanziva misaona imenica. :mrgreen:

Kad smo već kod Pirla, nije ni on bio na nivou ove prošle sezone, ali igrač kao Pirlo se više nikada neće pojaviti zato mu se i može progledati kroz prste, jer sve loše popravi nekom majstorijom.

Pa normalno da će Giaccherini igrati, igra u Juventusu, selektor Juventino, logično je da igra Metallic Giacch, ipak je čovjek šampion, šta si ti mislio? E čuj Candreva... :roll:
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Post Postao/la Pogba » 16 jun 2013, 23:53

Neukusno je porediti fenomenalnog Claudia sa igračem koji je samo 2 godine stariji, a hljeb zarađuje u Turskoj ligi.

Sljedeći koji kaže nešto kontra Claudia bit će prozvan antijuventinom od mene lično, a ako mu on smeta, neka mu svaki budući igrač bude Giacherinni, ili još gore, neki spoj Giacka, Tiaga, Poulsena, Almirona i Martineza. :mrgreen:
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Post Postao/la adointer » 16 jun 2013, 23:57

lik je definitivno antinogomet,ono je sramota za reprezentaciju kao sto je Italija,,

Sneijder je primjer bio,,ako vam se ne svidja uzmite 11 igraca Brazila iz sinocnje utakmice sa Japanom,,kazem da to "odmor" moze se okacit macku o rep,,sta treba i na svjetskom sledece godine da ga se odmori 3 mjeseca?pa da se kaze treba da nabije minute u noge? :roll:
"Kada se rukujem sa milanistom, operem ruke...kada se rukujem sa juventinom, izbrojim prste!" Peppino Prisco

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