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Gdje plati bodisa,one se vise opario ,a moze i bosnjo sad je solventan
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Re: ATP Tour
Moze gdje hocete al slijedeci vikend sad sam u nekoj guzvi trka frka svako me drka
Sto se mene tice ako hocete u pp da se razmijene malo brojevi pa da preko vibera dajemo dojave
Sto se mene tice ako hocete u pp da se razmijene malo brojevi pa da preko vibera dajemo dojave
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davno mi razmjenjujemo sve preko vibera,drugo je sto se ti drzis samo bodija.
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Saturday 22 May 2010
Roger Federer doesn't want to offend Rafael Nadal, the man he acknowledges as the king of clay, but the world No 1 believes that winning the French Open can be less than a full test of a man's tennis.
"On clay you don't need to have a volley," Federer says. "You almost don't need to have a serve. All you need to have is legs, an incredible forehand and backhand and to run things down. I'm not trying to take anything away from Rafa, because he's an exception and he did everything on other surfaces as well, but I think you can get away with having problems with your game on clay more than you can on other surfaces.
"On a hard court you can lure a guy in and do many more things. You almost have to have more feel. On clay, I don't want to say it's too simple, that you just have to keep the ball in court and wait for a mistake, but sometimes it's too easy."
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/ten ... 79825.html
Roger Federer doesn't want to offend Rafael Nadal, the man he acknowledges as the king of clay, but the world No 1 believes that winning the French Open can be less than a full test of a man's tennis.
"On clay you don't need to have a volley," Federer says. "You almost don't need to have a serve. All you need to have is legs, an incredible forehand and backhand and to run things down. I'm not trying to take anything away from Rafa, because he's an exception and he did everything on other surfaces as well, but I think you can get away with having problems with your game on clay more than you can on other surfaces.
"On a hard court you can lure a guy in and do many more things. You almost have to have more feel. On clay, I don't want to say it's too simple, that you just have to keep the ball in court and wait for a mistake, but sometimes it's too easy."
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/ten ... 79825.html
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Pa kad je tako zasto nije bio uspjesniji?lucky13 je napisao/la: ↑08 nov 2020, 09:07Saturday 22 May 2010
Roger Federer doesn't want to offend Rafael Nadal, the man he acknowledges as the king of clay, but the world No 1 believes that winning the French Open can be less than a full test of a man's tennis.
"On clay you don't need to have a volley," Federer says. "You almost don't need to have a serve. All you need to have is legs, an incredible forehand and backhand and to run things down. I'm not trying to take anything away from Rafa, because he's an exception and he did everything on other surfaces as well, but I think you can get away with having problems with your game on clay more than you can on other surfaces.
"On a hard court you can lure a guy in and do many more things. You almost have to have more feel. On clay, I don't want to say it's too simple, that you just have to keep the ball in court and wait for a mistake, but sometimes it's too easy."
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/ten ... 79825.html
Kad se tako analizira moze se reci isto i za tvrdu podlugu pogotovo u dvorani samo obrnuto. Sa dobrim servisom zavrsio si 80% posla protiv svakog igraca. Ne moras trcati i smarati se sa dugim razmjenama.
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ma kenja, zato mi nikada nija bio drag. omalovazava uspjehe konkurencije. i to uvjek onako provuce hinjski kao ne bih da mu umanjim uspjeh ALI pa ga totalno ukenja. u poslijednje vrijeme je korektniji prena rafi ali je i dalje jako zajedljiv prema noletu. tako je kada je ovaj spojio sva 4 slema rekao nesto kao: bez sumnje veliki uspjeh ALI nije to to sada kao prije i sada su podloge ujednacene, mnogi su bili blizu tome pa i ja i rafa smo za malo to napravili, nije to kao kada je igrao lejver i kada si imao ultra brzu travu i ultra sporu sljaku (i nista vise- 3 ultra brze trave i jedna ultra spora sljaka bez betona i 80-90% australijanaca na AO i prva godina open ere kada svi najbolji jos uvjek nisu igrali slemove), sada je sve isto. e sad....
1) ako je to bas tako lako sto ne napravi i on to, nego niko nikada otkako imamo eto 3 iste podloge (beton, sljaku i travu) na slemu. kako to da on nikada nije osvojio rim i MC i samo 1 RG? kako to da rafa nema sangaj, pariz, majami i WTF i ima samo 1 AO? kada je to bas sve isto sada.
2) ako spojimo ove dvije izjave, kako onda da ti je na tako izjednacenim podlogama za jednu podlogu potreban servis i volej a za drugu FH, BH i noge i kako to da se igra potpuno drugacije, po njegovoj izjavi, na zemlji i na betonu?
Zadnja izmjena: lucky13, dana/u 08 nov 2020, 22:49, ukupno mijenjano 1 put.
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Ono kad raspravljaju o random Federerovoj izjavi otprije 10,5 godina pritom uopste ne osvrcuci se na okolnosti koje su tad vladale 
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Nego Roger je na 5-om mjestu i tu ce vjv ostati,sto znaci da bi na AO mogli gledati u 1/4 neki klasik,bice zanimljiv zrijeb. Jedva cekam pocetak nove sezone po ko zna koji put 
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do kada novak ima garantovano prvo mjesto? prije AO, kraj AO ili još duže?
ima 2000 boba više od rafe i 2700 od thiema, nisam siguran kako se dalje boduje...
ima 2000 boba više od rafe i 2700 od thiema, nisam siguran kako se dalje boduje...
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sacekajmo WTF
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superhik federer
Sukob Đokovića i ATP zbog novca
Novac je stvorio jaz između najboljeg tenisera sveta Novaka Đokovića i ATP, smatra švajcarski list Blik.
MSIZVOR: B92 SREDA, 11.11.2020. | 19:25 -> 08:00
U tekstu koji počinje "Uzmite novac siromašnima i dajte bogatima", kao geslo ATP-a, nateralo je Đokovića da osnuje pandan tom udruženju pod nazivom PTPA.
ATP u novoj godini želi da stvori veće igrača oko Rodžera Federera, na čijem će čelu biti Kevin Anderson, i izmeni novčane nagrade, što se vidi na dokumentu koji je već "procureo" na društvenim mrežama.
Oni smatraju da bi vrhunski igrači trebalo više da zarađuju u situaciji kada i doprinose, s čime se ne slaže Novak jer želi da i slabije rangirani teniseri imaju neophodnu pomoć.
"Novčana nagrada u kvalifikacijama i prvim rundama trebalo bi da se smanji i poveća u završnici", navodi se u dokumentu.
Posle nastavka teniske sezone Novak se zalagao za pomoć lošije plasiranim igračima, ali kada je video da nema potpunu podršku okrenuo se PTPA.
Sve se to desilo pred US open i zbog toga je trpeo kritike određenog dela javnosti koje je pozivalo na "zajedništvo".
Baš na Grend slemu u Njujorku, Đoković je pre(oštro) diskvalifikovan sa za nenameran potez...
https://www.blick.ch/sport/tennis/dokum ... 87651.html
Sukob Đokovića i ATP zbog novca
Novac je stvorio jaz između najboljeg tenisera sveta Novaka Đokovića i ATP, smatra švajcarski list Blik.
MSIZVOR: B92 SREDA, 11.11.2020. | 19:25 -> 08:00
U tekstu koji počinje "Uzmite novac siromašnima i dajte bogatima", kao geslo ATP-a, nateralo je Đokovića da osnuje pandan tom udruženju pod nazivom PTPA.
ATP u novoj godini želi da stvori veće igrača oko Rodžera Federera, na čijem će čelu biti Kevin Anderson, i izmeni novčane nagrade, što se vidi na dokumentu koji je već "procureo" na društvenim mrežama.
Oni smatraju da bi vrhunski igrači trebalo više da zarađuju u situaciji kada i doprinose, s čime se ne slaže Novak jer želi da i slabije rangirani teniseri imaju neophodnu pomoć.
"Novčana nagrada u kvalifikacijama i prvim rundama trebalo bi da se smanji i poveća u završnici", navodi se u dokumentu.
Posle nastavka teniske sezone Novak se zalagao za pomoć lošije plasiranim igračima, ali kada je video da nema potpunu podršku okrenuo se PTPA.
Sve se to desilo pred US open i zbog toga je trpeo kritike određenog dela javnosti koje je pozivalo na "zajedništvo".
Baš na Grend slemu u Njujorku, Đoković je pre(oštro) diskvalifikovan sa za nenameran potez...
https://www.blick.ch/sport/tennis/dokum ... 87651.html
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Skupina tenisera oko starkelje Federera.?

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Pa sve se vrti oko novca tako da je to tacno. Problem je sto su upravu i jedni i drugi i rijesenje je veoma jednostavno i lako izvodivo samo niko se ne usudi da dira u osinje gnijezdo, zenski tenis. Jednostavno, novac raspodjeliti po tome koliko ko doprinese. zenski tenis uzima vise novca nego sto ga proizvede dakle udio u prihodima mu je mozda 10% a uzimaju 50% dakle na stetu muskaraca koji se sada svadjaju oko objektivno njihove love koja fali a koja je zavrsial u zenskom tenisu.
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Tako jednostavno, a tako komplikovano u današnjem svijetu. Samo čekam dan kada će ovo da pređe u ostale popularne sportove. Ili je možda do tenisa jer su baš soft u svemu.japa je napisao/la: ↑11 nov 2020, 16:19Pa sve se vrti oko novca tako da je to tacno. Problem je sto su upravu i jedni i drugi i rijesenje je veoma jednostavno i lako izvodivo samo niko se ne usudi da dira u osinje gnijezdo, zenski tenis. Jednostavno, novac raspodjeliti po tome koliko ko doprinese. zenski tenis uzima vise novca nego sto ga proizvede dakle udio u prihodima mu je mozda 10% a uzimaju 50% dakle na stetu muskaraca koji se sada svadjaju oko objektivno njihove love koja fali a koja je zavrsial u zenskom tenisu.
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U tenisu je specificna situacija jer je tradicionalisticki sport, muski i zenski tenis su oduvijek spojeni i to ga kosta i to su oni u zenskom tenisu savrseno iskroistili kao priliku, te uvlacenjem politike i kmecanjem o jednakosti i pravima zena isposlovale su nesto sto zene u drugim sportovima nikada nece. Sto je normalno jer koja je logika da najbolja fudbalerka zaradjuje ko Messi i Ronaldo a 99% ljudi ne zna reci ko je ona uopste? Najgore je sto su ekstremno pohlepne i borile su se za 50-50 iako da su pristale na nekih 70-30 omjer to bi i dalje ih cinilo daleko bogatijim nego sto bi realno trebale biti al ovako zgrabile su ogroman novac i sacemo da vidimo ko ima muda da pokrene da se novac normalno raspodjeli. Ne vdiim jos uvijek takvog tako da ce se u muskom tenisu radije i dalje svadjati medjusobno nego uperiti prstom tamo gdje je stvari problem.Finn je napisao/la: ↑11 nov 2020, 16:31Tako jednostavno, a tako komplikovano u današnjem svijetu. Samo čekam dan kada će ovo da pređe u ostale popularne sportove. Ili je možda do tenisa jer su baš soft u svemu.japa je napisao/la: ↑11 nov 2020, 16:19Pa sve se vrti oko novca tako da je to tacno. Problem je sto su upravu i jedni i drugi i rijesenje je veoma jednostavno i lako izvodivo samo niko se ne usudi da dira u osinje gnijezdo, zenski tenis. Jednostavno, novac raspodjeliti po tome koliko ko doprinese. zenski tenis uzima vise novca nego sto ga proizvede dakle udio u prihodima mu je mozda 10% a uzimaju 50% dakle na stetu muskaraca koji se sada svadjaju oko objektivno njihove love koja fali a koja je zavrsial u zenskom tenisu.
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nije to bas tako. ATP i WTA su 2 razlicite organizacije. jedino ITF (koji organizuje slemove i DC i FC) je zajednicka organizacija. vecina turnira (osim par mastersa) se igra odvojeno.
evo prevod na engleski sa svajcarskog blika:
Document reveals explosive plan for 2021
The quarrel between ATP and Djokovic is about money
Take it from the poor and give it to the rich - according to this motto, the ATP players' council around Roger Federer wants to redistribute the prize money in 2021. The fight for money is one of the reasons why Novak Djokovic is said to have founded his PTPA.
Novak Djokovic apparently had enough of the ATP's monetary policy.
In order to better support poorer professionals, Djokovic founded his players union PTPA.
As the Portuguese Gastao Elias reveals, the current players' council wants to cut the prize money in the qualifications and early rounds so that more can be paid out in the later rounds.
Djokovic doesn't like that. His new tennis union stands for different values, Elias explains in his post, which has now been deleted.
Djokovic has been fighting for a long time so that the worse off players can draw more money from the tournaments.
During the US Open there was a bang between ATP and Novak Djokovic. The Serb has announced that he is stepping down as president of the players 'council and is instead founding his own players' union, the PTPA. The criticism of this step of the world number 1 was huge. And now it becomes clear what the big quarrel is really about: the dear money.
A document was leaked on Twitter that shows the very explosive plans of the ATP and the current players' council for 2021. The council around Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and the new President Kevin Anderson have therefore advocated a change in the distribution of the prize money. And the players who already have a lot should benefit from this.
Spielerrat wants to cut prize money for the “little ones” in 2021
"The prize money in the qualification and in the first rounds is to be reduced slightly and increased in the later rounds," says the document. It should be a wish of the players.
After the resumption of the tennis tour after the Corona break, the prize money was adjusted in favor of the "little ones". That should now apparently at least be reversed.
The plan was posted by Gastao Elias, who is currently 421 in the ATP ranking. The Portuguese was also in 56th place. According to the Serbian newspaper “Blic”, he also writes that this is at least one of the reasons for Djokovic's solo effort. His new tennis union stands for different values. Just a few minutes after it was published, Elias deleted his post.
In fact, Djokovic has long been committed to ensuring that there is more prize money and that this primarily benefits the lower-ranking tennis professionals. But the 33-year-old obviously saw himself outnumbered in the council with this wish.

evo prevod na engleski sa svajcarskog blika:
Document reveals explosive plan for 2021
The quarrel between ATP and Djokovic is about money
Take it from the poor and give it to the rich - according to this motto, the ATP players' council around Roger Federer wants to redistribute the prize money in 2021. The fight for money is one of the reasons why Novak Djokovic is said to have founded his PTPA.
Novak Djokovic apparently had enough of the ATP's monetary policy.
In order to better support poorer professionals, Djokovic founded his players union PTPA.
As the Portuguese Gastao Elias reveals, the current players' council wants to cut the prize money in the qualifications and early rounds so that more can be paid out in the later rounds.
Djokovic doesn't like that. His new tennis union stands for different values, Elias explains in his post, which has now been deleted.
Djokovic has been fighting for a long time so that the worse off players can draw more money from the tournaments.
During the US Open there was a bang between ATP and Novak Djokovic. The Serb has announced that he is stepping down as president of the players 'council and is instead founding his own players' union, the PTPA. The criticism of this step of the world number 1 was huge. And now it becomes clear what the big quarrel is really about: the dear money.
A document was leaked on Twitter that shows the very explosive plans of the ATP and the current players' council for 2021. The council around Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and the new President Kevin Anderson have therefore advocated a change in the distribution of the prize money. And the players who already have a lot should benefit from this.
Spielerrat wants to cut prize money for the “little ones” in 2021
"The prize money in the qualification and in the first rounds is to be reduced slightly and increased in the later rounds," says the document. It should be a wish of the players.
After the resumption of the tennis tour after the Corona break, the prize money was adjusted in favor of the "little ones". That should now apparently at least be reversed.
The plan was posted by Gastao Elias, who is currently 421 in the ATP ranking. The Portuguese was also in 56th place. According to the Serbian newspaper “Blic”, he also writes that this is at least one of the reasons for Djokovic's solo effort. His new tennis union stands for different values. Just a few minutes after it was published, Elias deleted his post.
In fact, Djokovic has long been committed to ensuring that there is more prize money and that this primarily benefits the lower-ranking tennis professionals. But the 33-year-old obviously saw himself outnumbered in the council with this wish.

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Vala ,mogu oni radit sta hoce ,al nikad nece moc postic da 400. covjek na listi uzima neke velike pare.Tenis je ko i svaki sport.Pare se uzimaju od reklama,tv prenosa,samih gledalaca na stadionima,sponzora itd.Iz tog razloga su veci turniri u mogucnosti da vise placaju i zato je cilj i igrat na njima.Ovi manji turniri si to nikad ne mogu priustit,jer jednostavno ne generisu pare.Tako da ce slabije rangirani igraci moc bit bolje placeni bukvalno ako se top igraci sloze da im dadnu neki vid sadake ili da osnuju neki fond za njih.
Isto je jbg i u drugim sportovima samo sto u tenisu imas tu jednu jedinu listu,a drugdje imas lige i log je da igrac u Engleskoj Premier ligi zaradjuje vise od igraca iz engleske trece lige.
Isto je jbg i u drugim sportovima samo sto u tenisu imas tu jednu jedinu listu,a drugdje imas lige i log je da igrac u Engleskoj Premier ligi zaradjuje vise od igraca iz engleske trece lige.
Zadnja izmjena: darker10, dana/u 11 nov 2020, 21:53, ukupno mijenjano 1 put.


