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[Cartman]

Potvrdjeno da ono nije bio Costa u lozi. Na sta su ovi engleski novinari spali.

[haxonja]

Prije je bilo ludo, sad je bas teatar... sjede samo

sad su gotovo polovina prisutnih na OT-u stranci kad pogledaš koliko je tu azijaca sve ti je jasno svaka njima čast ali ne mogu oni nikad imati onu strast kao momci iz Manchestera.

Berbatov and Man Utd unable to agree on length of new deal
Dimitar Berbatov reportedly wants to sign a new contract which will see out his career at Manchester United.

However, that ambition clashes with United’s ideas of the length of the new deal they are prepared to offer their Bulgarian striker.

Berbatov has scored 20 goals in the Premier League this season, including Saturday's late winner against Bolton Wanderers.

Now the News of the World reports that the former Tottenham Hotspur striker wants to sign a contract that would enable him to finish his career at Old Trafford.

But, for the moment club and player are struggling with the length of time to be offered. His current United contract expires in 2012.

sve je izgledniji transfer Berbatova barem prema natpisima

Upravo tako ali mnogi su otisli da prate United of Manchester zbog ove atmosfere opustene i navijanja!

[haxonja]

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Gol Pogbe, zaista dijete ce biti igracina ja bih mu vec dao priliku u sljedecoj sezoni!

[Hawking]

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Gol Pogbe, zaista dijete ce biti igracina ja bih mu vec dao priliku u sljedecoj sezoni!

Dominacija

[Martex]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodispl ... y-8816786/
Gol Pogbe, zaista dijete ce biti igracina ja bih mu vec dao priliku u sljedecoj sezoni!

Dominacija

-Paja-

[brazzo]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodispl ... y-8816786/
Gol Pogbe, zaista dijete ce biti igracina ja bih mu vec dao priliku u sljedecoj sezoni!

Dominacija

nije fer da među ovom dječurlijom igra otac fudbala

[reddevil16]

Jedan odlican komentar na igre M.Carricka. Unaprijed izvinjenje sto je na ENG. Jeziku!!!!!

The undue criticism of Michael Carrick
by Ryan57 » Yesterday, 11:54 pm

Bit of a long read but, it's worth it.

Michael Carrick is very good at football. It might seem like an obvious statement, given that he has played most games for one of the top three most successful teams in the world for the last four-and-a-half seasons, but you won’t find many who share this view. Carrick has been accused of, amongst other things, regression, lack of creativity, timidness, and lacking the ability to impose himself on games, particularly away from home. Why then does the greatest manager of all time continue to trust in him?

It is evident from watching United this season that Michael Carrick has been transformed into a holding midfielder. Whilst this may be obvious to people watching United week in and week out, others continue to judge Carrick based on the standards of a more attacking player, i.e. the Carrick of 2006-2008. Carrick 2.0 is charged specifically if not entirely with gaining, and then keeping possession.

It is a task Carrick is extremely good, nay, brilliant at. He can boast the highest amount of interceptions for a midfielder in the Premier League, at a staggering rate of 4.38 per game (Anderson 1.90, Scholes 1.82, Fletcher 1.54, Gibson 0.95). He can also boast the highest pass success ratio of any regular starting midfielder (i.e. 50% or more games) in the league, completing 780 out of 898 attempted passes for a success rate of 86.9%. Critics will inevitably accuse him of passing only backwards and sideways, but an examination of his chalkboards will show you that he passes conclusively forward (that is anything more than a couple of yards up the field) about 40% of the time.

Carrick has also demonstrated his enormous importance to our defensive. He has started 14 of United’s 27 league games this season. In those 14 games, we’ve conceded 8 goals. Of the 13 games he didn’t start, we’ve conceded 15 goals. So this season, when Carrick plays we concede, on average 0.57 goals, and when he doesn’t, we concede 1.15. We’ve also conceded 2 goals or more in 7 games this season – 5 of those were games Carrick didn’t play in.

The inevitable response when putting forth such figures is “I don’t need the stats, I know what I see with my own eyes”. Resisting the urge to make the obvious Mike Summerbee reference (and yet I just did), is that nearly every naked eye spectator is an imperfect judge. During a match someone will have their eye on any number of things and scenarios, may not be fully concentrating at points.

To digress a touch, but still generally concerning Carrick, using a real-life example, I was watching the Arsenal game in December in the pub with my mate. Arsenal were on the attack. Fabregas attempted to thread through a pass and Carrick intercepted it. The ball fell to Anderson who gave it away. Nasri lofted it into the area and Carrick headed away. About 30 seconds later van Persie shot and Carrick blocked. The ball bounced around a bit, and Carrick attempted a pass forward which didn’t find its target. My mate went on a rant about how rubbish Carrick was and how he offered nothing. I asked him had he seen any of Carrick’s contributions in the past minute. He said no. I asked him had he not seen his interception, his header and his block. He said he didn’t.

Now, I’m not trying to diss my mate and say he’s terrible at analysing football. What I’m saying is that it’s extremely difficult to notice and indeed remember all the little bits of a football game. When Carrick intercepted, my mate might have been thinking that he hadn’t seen too much of Fabregas tonight. When Carrick headed clear he might have been shouting that someone was offside. When Carrick blocked he might have been thinking how powerful a shot van Persie has, or he may have briefly looked away, or he might have been looking at the screen but not really looking, which happens to the best of us.

However when a player makes a mistake, it tends to be obvious. The commentator will usually note it and it will be obvious as it will usually result in a switch in possession. A couple of mistakes could be made in a 5 minute period and someone will think to themselves that a player is having a shocker. This could fly in the face of several decent things that player has done in the game, or indeed go on to do, but it’ll stick in the mind. It’s here when stats come in useful.

Someone can say to me, “God, Carrick gave the ball away so much tonight”. As indeed happened after the derby in November, when his pass success rate was ridiculously high, which is what I countered with. Now, in a situation like against Marseille, it would be foolish to argue that Carrick’s passing was good because he had the best passing stats of our midfield. This is because a) they were still very low compared to what he normally achieves and b) it was noticeable that his forward passing was poor.

People often assess performances before a game is over as well and fail to account for improvements as a game wears on. I thought Carrick had an extremely decent last 25 against Marseille for example, no coincidence that this also occurred when Paul Scholes was also on the pitch.

I dislike when people make rash judgements that clearly fly in the face of statistics. I also dislike when people worship the stats and refuse to budge from them when there are clearly other things to consider or mitigating factors. The best approach is to take a sensible mix of the statistics and what you saw, as well as taking into account the analysis of learned others.

Getting back to Carrick specifically, one of the biggest problem he has to contend with is the lack of appreciation of his type in England. By and large, English fans will appreciate a destroyer, a go-getter and, crudely, a blue arsed fly. It is for this reason that Darren Fletcher has not received nearly enough stick as Carrick, despite his loss of form a) actually existing and b) being quite significant. Players of the likes of Carrick and Mikel and before them Veron are lambasted as wastes of space and lazy – though Veron was actually missing form most of the time at United his contribution was severely overlooked at time. The only holding player to achieve real love from the fans in England in the last few years has been Xabi Alonso – at what was at the time a very Spanish-influenced club, Spain being the home of possession football.

At this point, we will attempt to blow another couple of Carrick myths out of the water. The first, that he doesn’t get stuck in. He attempts about the same amount of tackles as other central midfielders in the league. What’s interesting is his success rate, at a little over 50% for most of his career is touching 70% this season, making it one of the highest I’ve seen, including defenders. The second is that he is a bit lazy and dozy. Again, the statistics show otherwise. Carrick covered more distance than any other United player in 4 out of his 5 Champions League group stage starts this season. Such figures aren’t available domestically, but if the trend continues then it can be said that Carrick is out there every week running his bollocks off.

He is constantly criticised for unimaginative passing, but to do so is to misunderstand his role. The reason he doesn’t use his range of passing is because he’s playing a different position than he used to. He can’t afford as many risky passes as he used to take on because if he misses them possession is lost in a dangerous area of the pitch.

I accept to an extent the sense of frustration that he’s clearly got a lot more in his locker than we see on the pitch but think of it as a necessary evil. The difference between how well we retain possession with Carrick as opposed to without is evident. Every pass doesn’t need to be incisive. The better a team retains possession, the more the opposition tire and the more the gaps open up. Not that he’s not still capable of passing teams to death – he’s done it this year for example against Rangers (107/117 passes), and Blackburn (88/95).

“Invisible”. “Nothing player”. “Shit”. All words regularly used to describe Carrick by the no-nothing neanderthals of football. He was the lone major signing in 2006 for Manchester United,who then proceeded to win their first league title in three years. And then another. And another. And a European Cup. And another final. A couple of Carling Cups too. Terrific as a relatively advanced playmaker from 2006 to mid-2009, Carrick’s form digressed in 09/10, and three brilliant seasons were forgotten in an instant. Good thing Fergie knows better. He’s gradually been transformed from that advanced position into a holding midfield role, and has turned into one of the finest players in that position, with an extraordinarily high pass success rate, the highest amount of interceptions in the league, underrated tackle success and extremely good work ethic.

Maybe, just maybe, if United win a 4th title in 5 years with Carrick playing a major if never quite starring role, the song that sums him up so well will blast out from the Stretford End: “He can pass, tackle, head, Michael Carrick is a Red.” And let’s hope that’s the case for another few years yet.

****: http://football-united-blogs.com/2011/0 ... l-carrick/

I'm a Carrick fan, and I feel the criticism is a little harsh from fans.

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[reddevil16]

Evo jos jedan vezano za istog igraca!!! Super komentar!!!!

Just found another great read:

The Misguided Scapegoating Of Michael Carrick

When did sideways passes that retain possession and bring others into the game become such a despicable thing?

Isn’t it better to play the ball sideways to a team mate than hoof it forward and hope it finds somebody?

Isn’t it better to win the ball through good positioning and solid tactical play than to launch yourself into last ditch tackles because you were caught out in the first place? Because from what I can tell most of the justification for the “Carrick isn’t good enough for United” chat that seems to have started doing the rounds is based upon Carrick not making bone crunching tackles that risk a red card, and he’s not pinging and endless stream of passes up field. Well boo hoo.

Carrick has been given a far more defensive role by SAF this year, something that seems to be lost on fans when they laud the contribution of the defence in our quest for trophies whilst at the same time slating Carrick. His shielding has been a massive, massive part of the success enjoyed so far this season and you only have to look at how much more fragile we look when he isn’t playing to realise that what Carrick does is quietly, and unspectacularly mop up anything that looks like it might threaten one of the most precious commodities in football – the clean sheet.

Carrick’s entire game is based around positioning, placing himself where the ball is going to go. Anticipating attacks and making sure that they don’t come to fruition, tracking the runners that need tracking, cutting out passes that could find their man, closing down angles, forcing the opposition to play the ball where United want them to play it, and not where they want to be putting it. Frankly, if Carrick was flying into sliding tackles it would give you a fair indication that he wasn’t doing his job properly. Claude Makelele is one of the more recently lauded exponents of this style of play and he didn’t need to be a blood and thunder player, he just did what he did exceptionally well and, do you know something, I don’t really remember him having half the passing range that Carrick possesses.

Now, I’m not suggesting that Carrick is on the same level as Claude, or that he is the answer to all of United fan’s hopes and prayers. I still think that we need another player in the Hargreaves mould, a tenacious, energetic destroyer. But considering United signed two £18m English midfielders within a year of each other, and one has been involved in 143 of the 181 Premier League games since his signing – resulting in 3 titles in 4 years and a very good shot at 4 in 5, whilst the other has played 27 games in their 3 and a half years, it’s a little surprising that it’s Owen Hargreaves who has the fans adoration, whilst Carrick is berated for every minor error. The kind of error that Darren Fletcher is easily forgiven.

’ve tried to watch as much of Carrick as I can since the abuse started raining down on him, and I just can’t figure out what is causing most of it. He’s unspectacular I’ll admit. But so is bread. Nobody really mentions bread when they’re making a sandwich, they talk about what meat they’re going to have, what mustard or relish, and that’s fine, but you need the bread to make the sandwich work, just sitting there, unspectacularly doing its job. Now, that’s not the best analogy I’ll ever make, but if Michael Carrick was a food, I can safely say he’d be wholemeal bread. Not everyone likes him, but your team/diet is a lot healthier with him in it.

he problem that Carrick faces is that functional isn’t exciting. It seems that nowadays it’s better to lose possession and then chase like a dog to get it back than it is to win possession with a classy interception and then pass it SIDEWAYS to an on rushing full back who’s looking to spring a counter attack. But then I guess when you’re top of the league and have booked a place in the semi final of the FA Cup and quarter final of the Champions League it’s pretty important to identify the route cause of all your problems and immediately flush them out. After all, why else would there be such a need for the kind of scapegoat finding that I would normally associate with England fans.
The way some United fans have gone after players this season is exactly the kind of thing we always hate fans of other clubs doing to our players after another England exit. Many a United player has been stood by through thick and thin after World Cup induced national hatred, it makes us love them more almost. Everybody hates you, so we love you more. So why are people slating Gibson and Carrick so much this season?

It seems to have crept in more and more recently and I think what fans need to start appreciating is that United can’t spend the way they used to, and they certainly can’t spend the way that Chelsea and Man City are. Unless the Qatar deal becomes a reality or another set of owners finds a way to make the Glazers sell and wipe the debt then I don’t really see any reason why United should start spending crazy sums of money either. The base of the team is there to build on. Yes Giggs and Scholes are legends who can’t go on forever. Yes VDS is retiring. But if Carrick can act as the defensive shield for another 4 years then I’ll be a happy man. The kind of composure he shows on the ball might not match that of Paul Scholes, but I can’t think of anyone who can match him.
Carrick may not be the best of his kind, but I can safely say that if you asked players from every back four in the country, they’d all love to have Carrick in front of them. He’s better than Mikel, he’s better than Song, he’s better than Lucas, I personally think he’s better than Barry and that my friends is where his main opposition comes from.

So he’s not Xabi Alonso, so he’s not in the top 10 players in the World, the success of Manchester United down the years has been to make a group of very good players into a World class team. Carrick fits that bill because he is a very good player, and he cares infinitely more about the team than he does about personal glory. You don’t see Carrick tearing round like a headless chicken, dragging team mates out of position to help fulfil his own personal quest for hero worship.

I hope that Carrick can continue doing what he does, helping the defence to hold firm during another spell of squeaky bum time. I hope that when we get our wide players back they give more options for the long passes that Carrick can majestically produce at times. I hope that United win their 19th title, and I hope more than anything that this trend of blaming our own players stops with that achievement, because I’ve always been proud of the way United fans support their own, even in the face of overwhelming criticism from others, we have enough haters in the World, without helping them by slating one of our own.

****: http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2011/03/bl ... el-carrick

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Gol Pogbe, zaista dijete ce biti igracina ja bih mu vec dao priliku u sljedecoj sezoni!

Pa kakav nam je vezni red, sigurno da bi on nudio nesto novo. Ali sumnjam da ce dobit previse prilika sljedece sezone, Fergie je postao nesto oprezan sa mladim igracima iz Unitedove akademije u zadnje vrijeme.

[brazzo]

Man Utd to hand ex-Liverpool junior Wootton new contract
Manchester United are handing defender Scott Wootton a new contract.

The People says United are giving young centre-half Wootton a new two-year contract as a reward for his progress.

The 19-year-old has been a stand-out for the reserves – also enjoying two successful loan spells at League One Tranmere – and boss Sir Alex Ferguson is keen to tie him down as he closes in on the first-team squad.

Wootton was snapped up from Liverpool after falling out with Academy management.

[ja.neron]

Talk of a new contract and big pay rise for the Bulgarian is somewhat premature, however, with United in no hurry to open negotiations. They have the option to extend Berbatov's current deal by one year, meaning it would run until the summer of 2013.

[Cartman]

Man Utd to hand ex-Liverpool junior Wootton new contract
Manchester United are handing defender Scott Wootton a new contract.

The People says United are giving young centre-half Wootton a new two-year contract as a reward for his progress.

The 19-year-old has been a stand-out for the reserves – also enjoying two successful loan spells at League One Tranmere – and boss Sir Alex Ferguson is keen to tie him down as he closes in on the first-team squad.

Wootton was snapped up from Liverpool after falling out with Academy management.

Uh sto bi volio da se ovaj pokaze kao veliki talenat.

[QUARESMA 18<<<]

[youtube][/youtube] evo jedan odličan video da se sjetimo starih dobrih vremena

Prije je bilo ludo, sad je bas teatar... sjede samo

ne zove se dzaba teatar snova

[brazzo]

Holden nakon Evans-ovog starta čak 6 mjeseci van terena šteta žao mi je i momka i Boltona pogotovo nakon onog starta nad Nani-jem

[Cartman]

Sramotan start Evansa, nadam se da je poslao izvinjenje covjeku. Unitedovi igraci takve stvari ne trebaju raditi. To neka prepuste mesarima iz Stokea i Liverpoola. Evans zasluzuje najmanje 3 utakmice kazne.

Ovo je samo kruna na groznu sezonu Evansa. Treba mu dat jos jednu sezonu da se dokaze, ako ovakvu formu ponovi, ocito je da moramo u kupovinu.

[Devil]

Hoce li neko da me obraduje pa da kaze da Evans nije povredjen kako pisu mediji.Bilo bi lepo kada bi zauzeo mesto u startnih 11 u petak.

[Cartman]

Hoce li neko da me obraduje pa da kaze da Evans nije povredjen kako pisu mediji.Bilo bi lepo kada bi zauzeo mesto u startnih 11 u petak.

Mislio sam da ti je i Evans favorit zajedno sa O'Shea.

Nego hoce li Vidic igrat za Srbiju?

[Devil]

Hoce li neko da me obraduje pa da kaze da Evans nije povredjen kako pisu mediji.Bilo bi lepo kada bi zauzeo mesto u startnih 11 u petak.

Mislio sam da ti je i Evans favorit zajedno sa O'Shea.

Nego hoce li Vidic igrat za Srbiju?

Nije mi Evans favorit,moj je samo O'Shea,jedan jedini.

Sto se tice Nemanje izgleda da nece igrati,ostao je u Manchesteru na pregledima i terapijama i doci ce u sredu ili cetvrtak tako da je neizvesno da li ce igrati bar u Tallinu.

[dr.van nostrand]

Sramotan start Evansa, nadam se da je poslao izvinjenje covjeku. Unitedovi igraci takve stvari ne trebaju raditi. To neka prepuste mesarima iz Stokea i Liverpoola. Evans zasluzuje najmanje 3 utakmice kazne.

Ovo je samo kruna na groznu sezonu Evansa. Treba mu dat jos jednu sezonu da se dokaze, ako ovakvu formu ponovi, ocito je da moramo u kupovinu.

Premiership je takav,sa muskom i snaznom igrom , zestokim duelima i na zemlji i u zraku , pa se nazalost dogode i ovakve povrede , koje su ipak hvala Bogu rijetke kao ova Holdenova , a npr. u Spaniji ruzan pogled uputiti Ronaldu ili Messiju znaci opomena prediskljucenje .

[Rooney88]

Evo Obertan pogodio 2 puta za rezerve u pobjedi nad Newcastleom.